Martin Schulz: 'Manfred Weber's way is wrong'

Throughout his political life, Martin Schulz, chairman of the Friedrich Ebert Foundation, has dealt with right-wing nationalists, neo-fascists and populists. In an interview with Horand Knaup, he talks about Silvio Berlusconi, whom he legendarily defied 20 years ago, about the essential elements of democratic culture and the fears of decline of once stable social milieus.